Comments on: Exposing Cults at a Book Fair http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Commentary on news, politics, religion, and the economy... Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:55:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nancy Sage http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-254 Nancy Sage Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:21:16 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-254 Dear Richard, I have just received the link regarding your book from Gayle Minette McCurdy, and I must tell you how exciting and inspirational it is to hear that you wrote about your experience growing up as a Jehovah's Witness. I am looking forward to reading it as soon as I can. I find it hilarious that you coined this cult a club, which I cannot disagree, because they are similar. Being invited to speak and present your book at the Tucson Book Festival was a wonderful opportunity to expose this cult, which was the reason I wrote my story. My daughter Tami encouraged me to write down how I went undercover in the organization to rescue my other daughter Gloria. I also grew up as a JW and even married one. He was an elder for 15 years. At that time we lived in Orange County California, actually in the city of Orange, and Anaheim. We all resigned in l983 except Gloria, (then married). After that we lost her because of their shunning policy for 10 years. In 1993, I decided to go back and become a member so I could communicate with her, and show her their cult-like errors. It took 2 years to accomplish this along with exposing her elder husband as a child molester. If you are interested in reading it, the title is: "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter, From The Cult Of Jehovah's Witnesses", by Nancy J. Sage ( I have included many family pictures). http://www.amazon.com/Going-Undercover-Rescue-My-Daughter/dp/0941813053 It seems to be the season for exposing cults, you and Esther Royer Ayers are to be commended for writing your books, and putting them out there for the public. I plan to get in touch with Esther also. Right now I am negotiating with the producers for the Oprah Industries Inc. to be on one of their TV shows, ( A&E or Discovery channels), and for producing a movie. We are looking for a screenwriter that will help for the movie. Do you happen to know of one? I am looking forward to hearing from you, and letting me know if you have any further plans to promote your book. Most sincerely, Nancy<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('254','Nancy Sage'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('254','Nancy Sage','Dear Richard,\n\nI have just received the link regarding your book from Gayle Minette McCurdy, and I must tell you how exciting and inspirational it is to hear that you wrote about your experience growing up as a Jehovah\'s Witness. I am looking forward to reading it as soon as I can. I find it hilarious that you coined this cult a club, which I cannot disagree, because they are similar.\n\nBeing invited to speak and present your book at the Tucson Book Festival was a wonderful opportunity to expose this cult, which was the reason I wrote my story. My daughter Tami encouraged me to write down how I went undercover in the organization to rescue my other daughter Gloria.\n\nI also grew up as a JW and even married one. He was an elder for 15 years. At that time we lived in Orange County California, actually in the city of Orange, and Anaheim. We all resigned in l983 except Gloria, (then married). After that we lost her because of their shunning policy for 10 years. In 1993, I decided to go back and become a member so I could communicate with her, and show her their cult-like errors. It took 2 years to accomplish this along with exposing her elder husband as a child molester.\n\nIf you are interested in reading it, the title is: \"Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter, From The Cult Of Jehovah\'s Witnesses\", by Nancy J. Sage ( I have included many family pictures).\n\nhttp:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Going-Undercover-Rescue-My-Daughter\/dp\/0941813053\n\nIt seems to be the season for exposing cults, you and Esther Royer Ayers are to be commended for writing your books, and putting them out there for the public. I plan to get in touch with Esther also. Right now I am negotiating with the producers for the Oprah Industries Inc. to be on one of their TV shows, ( A&E or Discovery channels), and for producing a movie. We are looking for a screenwriter that will help for the movie. Do you happen to know of one?\n\nI am looking forward to hearing from you, and letting me know if you have any further plans to promote your book.\n\nMost sincerely,\nNancy'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dear Richard,

I have just received the link regarding your book from Gayle Minette McCurdy, and I must tell you how exciting and inspirational it is to hear that you wrote about your experience growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness. I am looking forward to reading it as soon as I can. I find it hilarious that you coined this cult a club, which I cannot disagree, because they are similar.

Being invited to speak and present your book at the Tucson Book Festival was a wonderful opportunity to expose this cult, which was the reason I wrote my story. My daughter Tami encouraged me to write down how I went undercover in the organization to rescue my other daughter Gloria.

I also grew up as a JW and even married one. He was an elder for 15 years. At that time we lived in Orange County California, actually in the city of Orange, and Anaheim. We all resigned in l983 except Gloria, (then married). After that we lost her because of their shunning policy for 10 years. In 1993, I decided to go back and become a member so I could communicate with her, and show her their cult-like errors. It took 2 years to accomplish this along with exposing her elder husband as a child molester.

If you are interested in reading it, the title is: “Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter, From The Cult Of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, by Nancy J. Sage ( I have included many family pictures).

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Undercover-Rescue-My-Daughter/dp/0941813053

It seems to be the season for exposing cults, you and Esther Royer Ayers are to be commended for writing your books, and putting them out there for the public. I plan to get in touch with Esther also. Right now I am negotiating with the producers for the Oprah Industries Inc. to be on one of their TV shows, ( A&E or Discovery channels), and for producing a movie. We are looking for a screenwriter that will help for the movie. Do you happen to know of one?

I am looking forward to hearing from you, and letting me know if you have any further plans to promote your book.

Most sincerely,
Nancy

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]]> By: Elmay http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-253 Elmay Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:20:34 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-253 I am so glad a former JW friend sent me this experience of unrealistic life of two former cult members. Good to learn there are others making the truth known about the domineering, controling leaders and consequences to families. The life oportunities lost by being mislead in following such organizations who rule in the name of God. Spent 30 plus years, raised 4 children under the umbrella of no, nos all for the profit of organization. Good and comforting to read of the above.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('253','Elmay'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('253','Elmay','I am so glad a former JW friend sent me this experience of unrealistic life of two former cult members. Good to learn there are others making the truth known about the domineering, controling leaders and consequences to families. The life oportunities lost by being mislead in following such organizations who rule in the name of God.\n Spent 30 plus years, raised 4 children under the umbrella of no, nos all for the profit of organization.\n Good and comforting to read of the above.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am so glad a former JW friend sent me this experience of unrealistic life of two former cult members. Good to learn there are others making the truth known about the domineering, controling leaders and consequences to families. The life oportunities lost by being mislead in following such organizations who rule in the name of God.
Spent 30 plus years, raised 4 children under the umbrella of no, nos all for the profit of organization.
Good and comforting to read of the above.
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]]> By: Gayle McCurdy http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-252 Gayle McCurdy Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:12:53 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-252 I have read Dick's book and identify to his experience as a JW, raised up in it late 50s through mid-80s, also having gone to "where the need is greater" and to Bethel. I will also get Ms. Ayers book. JWs may be a small group in itself, however with the combined numbers of other cultic groups, the numbers of ex-cult members can have a powerful voice and there is a valuable real story among them that must be told!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('252','Gayle McCurdy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('252','Gayle McCurdy','I have read Dick\'s book and identify to his experience as a JW, raised up in it late 50s through mid-80s, also having gone to \"where the need is greater\" and to Bethel. I will also get Ms. Ayers book. JWs may be a small group in itself, however with the combined numbers of other cultic groups, the numbers of ex-cult members can have a powerful voice and there is a valuable real story among them that must be told!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have read Dick’s book and identify to his experience as a JW, raised up in it late 50s through mid-80s, also having gone to “where the need is greater” and to Bethel. I will also get Ms. Ayers book. JWs may be a small group in itself, however with the combined numbers of other cultic groups, the numbers of ex-cult members can have a powerful voice and there is a valuable real story among them that must be told!
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]]> By: Cheryl Brown http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-251 Cheryl Brown Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:51:23 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-251 Dick, I am so glad you found Esther and a kindred spirit. It is always a revelation (ha!) to find others of a like mind. For years I kept quiet about my own beliefs as far as religion is concerned. When I finally mustered up the courage to confess (ha!) that I am an atheist, I was stunned to find that many others felt the same. We are intimidated by the religious and society places us somewhere in the social hierarchy as below used car salesmen. I have decided in my old age that I do not need to keep mum about religion or the social injustice that I feel many religions entail, such as women's rights, gay rights, etc. I am not a bad person because I am a nonbeliever. I consider myself a Humanist. Live and let live. I am proud to be your friend and Helen's too! Cheryl<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('251','Cheryl Brown'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('251','Cheryl Brown','Dick, I am so glad you found Esther and a kindred spirit. It is always a revelation (ha!) to find others of a like mind.\n\nFor years I kept quiet about my own beliefs as far as religion is concerned. When I finally mustered up the courage to confess (ha!) that I am an atheist, I was stunned to find that many others felt the same. We are intimidated by the religious and society places us somewhere in the social hierarchy as below used car salesmen.\n\nI have decided in my old age that I do not need to keep mum about religion or the social injustice that I feel many religions entail, such as women\'s rights, gay rights, etc. I am not a bad person because I am a nonbeliever. I consider myself a Humanist. Live and let live.\n\nI am proud to be your friend and Helen\'s too! Cheryl'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dick, I am so glad you found Esther and a kindred spirit. It is always a revelation (ha!) to find others of a like mind.

For years I kept quiet about my own beliefs as far as religion is concerned. When I finally mustered up the courage to confess (ha!) that I am an atheist, I was stunned to find that many others felt the same. We are intimidated by the religious and society places us somewhere in the social hierarchy as below used car salesmen.

I have decided in my old age that I do not need to keep mum about religion or the social injustice that I feel many religions entail, such as women’s rights, gay rights, etc. I am not a bad person because I am a nonbeliever. I consider myself a Humanist. Live and let live.

I am proud to be your friend and Helen’s too! Cheryl

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]]> By: Dean & Norine Kasten http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-250 Dean & Norine Kasten Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:00:58 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-250 Dick, We very much enjoyed your book and know that it will help and encourage many who have grown up in cults! It's always good to know we are not alone. What a journey! Many decisions have to be made if you leave. Is what you have been taught as a child true? Is leaving the cult worth being shunned by your family? For Dean and I, life outside the cult is far better! Thanks for your good work!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('250','Dean & Norine Kasten'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('250','Dean & Norine Kasten','Dick,\nWe very much enjoyed your book and know that it will help and encourage many who have grown up in cults! It\'s always good to know we are not alone. What a journey! Many decisions have to be made if you leave. Is what you have been taught as a child true? Is leaving the cult worth being shunned by your family? For Dean and I, life outside the cult is far better! Thanks for your good work!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dick,
We very much enjoyed your book and know that it will help and encourage many who have grown up in cults! It’s always good to know we are not alone. What a journey! Many decisions have to be made if you leave. Is what you have been taught as a child true? Is leaving the cult worth being shunned by your family? For Dean and I, life outside the cult is far better! Thanks for your good work!
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]]> By: Tom Cabeen http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-249 Tom Cabeen Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:24:29 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-249 Dick and Esther, Thanks for first making the enormous effort needed to honestly face who you are and what forces had been at work to make you are that way, then continuing on the journey from that place to another place, then taking the time to document your journey in writing, so that others could learn from what you experienced. I have not read your book, Esther, but I have read Dick's book and found it to be a heartwarming, funny and illuminating account of what must have been a very difficult journey to make. God bless you both!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('249','Tom Cabeen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('249','Tom Cabeen','Dick and Esther,\nThanks for first making the enormous effort needed to honestly face who you are and what forces had been at work to make you are that way, then continuing on the journey from that place to another place, then taking the time to document your journey in writing, so that others could learn from what you experienced. I have not read your book, Esther, but I have read Dick\'s book and found it to be a heartwarming, funny and illuminating account of what must have been a very difficult journey to make. God bless you both!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dick and Esther,
Thanks for first making the enormous effort needed to honestly face who you are and what forces had been at work to make you are that way, then continuing on the journey from that place to another place, then taking the time to document your journey in writing, so that others could learn from what you experienced. I have not read your book, Esther, but I have read Dick’s book and found it to be a heartwarming, funny and illuminating account of what must have been a very difficult journey to make. God bless you both!
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]]> By: Melissa G http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-248 Melissa G Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:57:49 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-248 Awww, thanks Dick. Who knows, maybe someday I will write one!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('248','Melissa G'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('248','Melissa G','Awww, thanks Dick. Who knows, maybe someday I will write one!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Awww, thanks Dick. Who knows, maybe someday I will write one!
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]]> By: Richard E. Kelly http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-247 Richard E. Kelly Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:43:42 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-247 Melissa, thank you for your kind comments. I had the privledge of meeting personally with Melissa shortly after the book fair. And having heard her story, she is the person who could, or should, have written a book. She is a most remarkable person who earns my kudos for surviving an emotional ordeal that only the best and strongest, as Darwin would have predicted, could have done. You are my new hero!<a href='#comment-758' rel="nofollow">@Melissa G</a> -<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('247','Richard E. Kelly'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('247','Richard E. Kelly','Melissa, thank you for your kind comments. I had the privledge of meeting personally with Melissa shortly after the book fair. And having heard her story, she is the person who could, or should, have written a book. She is a most remarkable person who earns my kudos for surviving an emotional ordeal that only the best and strongest, as Darwin would have predicted, could have done. You are my new hero!<a href=\'#comment-758\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Melissa G<\/a> -'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Melissa, thank you for your kind comments. I had the privledge of meeting personally with Melissa shortly after the book fair. And having heard her story, she is the person who could, or should, have written a book. She is a most remarkable person who earns my kudos for surviving an emotional ordeal that only the best and strongest, as Darwin would have predicted, could have done. You are my new hero!@Melissa G -
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]]> By: Melissa G http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-246 Melissa G Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:12:41 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-246 I thoroughly enjoyed meeting both Dick and Esther at the book fair. Having lived a life similar to Dick's made it very interesting. Esther was a delight. Anyone with an interest in cults should read these books for the insights they contain!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('246','Melissa G'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('246','Melissa G','I thoroughly enjoyed meeting both Dick and Esther at the book fair. Having lived a life similar to Dick\'s made it very interesting. Esther was a delight. Anyone with an interest in cults should read these books for the insights they contain!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I thoroughly enjoyed meeting both Dick and Esther at the book fair. Having lived a life similar to Dick’s made it very interesting. Esther was a delight. Anyone with an interest in cults should read these books for the insights they contain!
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]]> By: Sebastian http://justoneopinion.com/exposing-cults/comment-page-1#comment-243 Sebastian Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:39:23 +0000 http://justoneopinion.com/?p=1816#comment-243 Mr. Kelly - thank you for your very nice article about you and Mrs. Ayers talking about your childhood. I was kind of like that too, but I was a Baptist. I don't think anyone has the only religion and sometimes I think they don't know what they are talking about. For instance, I would go to one Baptist Church and the preacher would say that we should not dance and girls should not wear makeup or drink beer. I would go to another one across town and all the women had lots of makeup and big hair and everyone would have barbecues with lots of beer. I remember when Jan Crouch came to give a speech at a local revival sponsored by the Baptists, the ones that didn't believe in makeup, you couldn't see anything except her big wig and makeup globbed on like house paint. I went to another church one time that made all of the women wear skirts to church and even stockings when it was 110 degrees. I never could understand why you could go to different churches that called themselves Baptists and yet they all taught different things.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('243','Sebastian'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('243','Sebastian','Mr. Kelly - thank you for your very nice article about you and Mrs. Ayers talking about your childhood. I was kind of like that too, but I was a Baptist. I don\'t think anyone has the only religion and sometimes I think they don\'t know what they are talking about.\nFor instance, I would go to one Baptist Church and the preacher would say that we should not dance and girls should not wear makeup or drink beer. I would go to another one across town and all the women had lots of makeup and big hair and everyone would have barbecues with lots of beer. I remember when Jan Crouch came to give a speech at a local revival sponsored by the Baptists, the ones that didn\'t believe in makeup, you couldn\'t see anything except her big wig and makeup globbed on like house paint.\nI went to another church one time that made all of the women wear skirts to church and even stockings when it was 110 degrees. I never could understand why you could go to different churches that called themselves Baptists and yet they all taught different things.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mr. Kelly – thank you for your very nice article about you and Mrs. Ayers talking about your childhood. I was kind of like that too, but I was a Baptist. I don’t think anyone has the only religion and sometimes I think they don’t know what they are talking about.
For instance, I would go to one Baptist Church and the preacher would say that we should not dance and girls should not wear makeup or drink beer. I would go to another one across town and all the women had lots of makeup and big hair and everyone would have barbecues with lots of beer. I remember when Jan Crouch came to give a speech at a local revival sponsored by the Baptists, the ones that didn’t believe in makeup, you couldn’t see anything except her big wig and makeup globbed on like house paint.
I went to another church one time that made all of the women wear skirts to church and even stockings when it was 110 degrees. I never could understand why you could go to different churches that called themselves Baptists and yet they all taught different things.
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